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Tuesday, November 4, 2008
Published on November 3, 2008 By DigitusImpudicus In Everything Else

Just one more reminder to get out and vote Tuesday.  Support your candidates or at least vote against the persons you DON'T want to win!  It can be discouraging when you hear about voter fraud and long lines at the polls, but remember that many people gave their lives so we can have a voice in electing our leaders.

A few years back my wife and I stayed at "The Balsams" in Dixville Notch, NH.  It's WAAAY up there, even parts of Canada are south!  It's famous for being the first place in the USA to cast ballots on eelction day.  They open at midnight on election day.  "The Ballot Room" drips with history; its walls covered with pics of leaders and dignitaries who've visited (shilled? campaigned?) there.  Now I always think of that place when it's time to vote.

 

VOTE!  It's your civic duty!  It'll make you feel good.


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on Nov 04, 2008

Obama is not near to being a socialist, in europe he would be considerd a conservative. Also it would not be bad if he was one. The cold war is over you can drop you fear of socialism and communism now! (like right now)

 

Edit: Also, to be fair Mcain is not a Bush 2.0

on Nov 04, 2008

I'm going to go vote, but I really do not care who wins the Presidency. Blah to both of them! The congressional voting is where the real changes are made anyway. By the way, we really need to do something about getting rid of a 2-party system. All we end up with is a choice between 2 people who most of us would really rather not have in charge. It ends up being a pick between the lesser of two evils.

on Nov 04, 2008

In Britain we sort of have a three party system but one hasn't been elected for about a century.  There's nothing saying that we have to have two or three parties or whatever but it seems to have settled into a two and a half party system

on Nov 04, 2008

Also, to be fair Mcain is not a Bush 2.0

No, but his campaign staff sure the frak are 2004 redux. Idiots. If I were a McCain supporter that "idiots" would be prefaced with a long string of profanity.

I tempted to bet either 1 or 2. Leaning toward one (Virginia) but not sure about Florida?

I'm Floridian, politics is my sports, but I've never been a betting man. That said, I have a hunch that Florida is more likely to go for McCain than Virginia is. The wallet-vote factor in Virginia includes proximity to DC, and hence employment and contracting opportunities from the coming fiscal stimulus packages. Still, Florida is already very different than it was in 2004--the Hispanic vote is no longer solidly dominated by Cuban right-wingers and a big share of our retirees have seen big personal economic losses and serious threats to employment for their kids & grandkids. It's a dicey call, so I suppose betting makes sense if you like throwing down money that might be for nothing.

I'm going to go vote, but I really do not care who wins the Presidency. Blah to both of them! The congressional voting is where the real changes are made anyway. By the way, we really need to do something about getting rid of a 2-party system. All we end up with is a choice between 2 people who most of us would really rather not have in charge. It ends up being a pick between the lesser of two evils.

That has been pretty much the story for me since my first election in 1984. At least this time my party's nominee was not at or near the bottom of my list from the primaries (I supported Bill Richardson early on). What I really want to see from folks like Leo is a nation-wide effort to get a constitutional amendment that changes the House from single-member, winner-take-all districts to a party-based system. We might end up looking a lot like the 2.5-party system Astrath describes, but at least it would be a result of voter behavior and not a crude structrual accident.

Edit: quoting still seems broken if you try to mix selectins with attributed blocks.

on Nov 04, 2008

KingBingo
If I could ask someone on the inside. 

 

I'm thinking about placing a bet on how many of the following states McCain will win.

 


George Bush won each of these 'Six-Pack' states in 2004. How many can McCain hold onto? (Six-Pack states = Colorado,Florida,Nevada,North Carolina,Ohio,Virginia)
 

I tempted to bet either 1 or 2. Leaning toward one (Virginia) but not sure about Florida?

 

I'd bet on two-it may be three, but I wouldn't count on it.

Do you have to choose specific states, though?  Because that makes it more challenging, obviously.

on Nov 04, 2008

I'm just glad its almost over.  I can finally start watching the news again...... I can't stand either one of the canidates.

Congress on the other hand does seem to be something to look at.

on Nov 04, 2008

We know Obama will win it is only a question of by how much. If it is a narrow victory the "death card" will be played for sure. Personally I expect him to exceed 320 EVs and I think he has a good chance of getting 350+ to put him in the super majority area.

 

The NYT has a great dashboard for the results, You can get it here.

on Nov 04, 2008

I just hope the country stops going bannas after the election is over.

Then maybe the candidate that wins can focus less on flinging sh*t and more on the issues gripping our country and the world at large.

on Nov 04, 2008

Wow it looks like it might be a sweep in the Congress for blue as well - cool beans. It also appears Obama will in fact go into super majority area and beyond. Woohoo!!! He is owning in the key States, minus Montana - but by a hair. He should be able to pull it off however. Sadly, you just knew the South was going to spoil the party.

on Nov 05, 2008

Well, I was hoping Tina Fey would have a great SNL character for the next four years.  She was really good at acting out Sarah Palin.

 

on Nov 05, 2008

No, but his campaign staff sure the frak are 2004 redux. Idiots. If I were a McCain supporter that "idiots" would be prefaced with a long string of profanity.

 

More OMFG stupid than 2004 redux.  Bush ran an outstanding campaign.  McStupid ran a "how can I best lose this election by shitting on my party at the last minute" campaign.  Pork filled bailout bill?  Check.  Drop hints of using tax dollars to buy mortgages and give shit away to people that can't afford it?  Check.  Fucking tard...

 

May he not run in 2012 and stick to being the war hero senator half of us want to kill half the time but don't because he's the only fucking senator that doesn't add earmarks into bills.

on Nov 05, 2008

psychoak

  Drop hints of using tax dollars to buy mortgages and give shit away to people that can't afford it?  Check.  Fucking tard...

  

 

The way you put it is not the way I would have said it but this is essentially the issue that put me on the fence as someone who would otherwise be a solid McCain supporter. McCain has traditionally been a good supporter of free trade so I had assumed he understood why. The idea of using government money to keep an asset bubble inflated was totally absurd. Even more damaging in my opinion that the protectionist ideas Obama flirted with his primary. 

 

While McCain gave a great acceptance speech, his airings on economic matters during the debates was rather worrying to say the least. 

 

Not that I had a vote but that alone would have been extremely close to losing it for me. 

on Nov 05, 2008

It looks like America is dead, Obama won.  I'm still keeping my guns, no matter what he says though.(I wish I was a few years older)

on Nov 05, 2008

KingBingo

I'm with ya and ready to take back the colonies, mate!

on Nov 05, 2008

I'm with ya and ready to take back the colonies, mate!

You might want to reconsider that.  With our deficit as it is, you wouldn't be getting a very good deal. 

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